- wowie - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:39 am: Jesse Sullivan campaign slogan: Hey, guys look at me - Im still here. - Three Dimensional Checkers - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:55 am: ===You cant use law enforcement officers in their uniforms, in their cars, in a political campaign ad.===. - Huh? And as far back as 2007, when Jowers applied to work at the Taylor County jail, he claimed to have been an Airborne Ranger. Im Jesse Sullivan. Be sure to wear a mask on public transportation. (Other patterns Shipley has noticed: there is a disproportionate number of phonies in Georgia, liars tend to be junior enlisted men, and stolen valor is primarily a white problem.). It doesnt make sense.. Accompanying that trust was mounting anxiety that it could be abused. The Times Herald reported that Williams was a Vietnam veteran; one of the papers columnists wondered whether Vietnam did that to him. On a whim, Burkett filed a Freedom of Information Act request to obtain Williamss military records and discovered that he had never served in Vietnam. As Justice Kennedy predicted, public shaming has become the de-facto response to suspected stolen valor. It turned out that Williams had fabricated his service, and that the second-longest-surviving Confederate soldier probably had, too. Sullivans campaign pushed back hard on the out-of-state angle, insisting he was a Petersburg guy who had made lots of influential business friends in California and other states. Tuesday, Mar 29, 2022 - Posted by Rich Miller, * The spot begins with county sheriffs complaining about anti-police rhetoric, career politicians, etc. There are real peoples lives behind these stats. Should any who are not entitled to these honors have the insolence to assume the badges of them they shall be severely punished, he wrote. On day one, I would end those. And which side best fits the need for human sacrifice. After Leroy Foleys lies about his military service were exposed, Rick Jowers seemed certain to win the Republican primary and therefore become Callahan Countys next sheriff, since no one was running as a Democrat. - Red Ketcher - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:34 am: 1969 Ft. In many instances, though, the motivations are muddier. In True Grit, and other novels, Portis displayed a genius that went beyond character in the strictly literary sense. Some Callahan County residents were ready to forgive him. Also, ibid on the whole ethics of cops play-acting in uniform in a political ad. That is a crisis that is 750, was the most lives we lost of our soldiers over in Afghanistan was the worst year of the war over there. Help Illinois Colleges And Universities Go Green. - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 4:48 pm: To seal the stolen valor/pro military bonafides, we need some icing on the cake, Sullivan riding in an M1 Abrams tank, ala Michael Dukakis, October 1988. If they say theyre fully pro-life, theyll lose, because this is a pro-choice state. We are back with Illinois Republican gubernatorial candidate Jesse Sullivan. So, I asked, how could Sullivan have led combat patrols? ), Sterner had never intended to expose fakershe was more interested in the real heroesbut he kept running across them. Mr. Sullivans words are those of a person who fundamentally does not understand democratic governments and basic civil rights. No, you use the resources at your disposal to save peoples lives. A few of Military Phonies half-dozen volunteer researchers are registered private investigators, which allows them access to specialized databases. Throwing the guard at addressing violent crime is a recipe for disaster (recall Kent State). - Correcting - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 12:18 pm: Jesse Sullivan just needs to serve apple pie and make his campaign theme song I am a real American by Rick Derringer. Sullivan was recruited to be in the Army's Human Terrain System, which. - Langhorne - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 10:15 am: === Im an outsider and a man of faith called to protect and serve.===. If she ties herself to this fascism, I was incredibly wrong. Until then businesses leave. - Ryan - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 12:16 pm: Campaigning in a publicly funded police car? Ad Choices. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement and Your California Privacy Rights. Foley was not on the list. The law made it a federal misdemeanor to falsely represent oneself as having received . What Mr. Sullivan is describing is treating the City of Chicago a foreign country to be occupied by military forces under the direct control of his administration. When Rambo came out, everyone was a Green Beret. But one thing I learned from that experience was that many if not most are also civilian police. Unfortunately for him, voters know the truth and theyll remember it at the ballot box next week., By providing your cell phone number you consent to receive recurring text message updates from the Democratic Governors Association, including by automated text messages. People falsely claiming to have served in Vietnam often used the war to explain some failure or trauma in their personal livestheir homelessness or their struggles with addiction. He has outlined the actions of a dictator. Military Phonies gets more than a hundred thousand unique views on a good day, according to the Web sites administrator. After Bart buried her, he reviewed his security-camera footage to identify the culprit, then spent several nights perched in a tree with a pistol until he got his revenge. Foleys opponent in the Republican primary was Rick Jowers, a mild, approachable sheriffs deputy with a handlebar mustache. Military police state is just fine but a three inch piece of cloth to keep people alive s UnAmerican? And it wont matter if they do, when you have folks like the Governor of Mississippi saying I dont know yet when it comes to potentially banning *contraceptives*. Stolen Valor Act of 2005 - Wikipedia Jim Calhoun. So I guess he could get rid of those. Citizens leave. And they serve honorablyIrvins ad contains multiple falsehoods, most notably the dismissive comment that Jesse was a social worker. Irvins shameful use of veterans to dismiss this form of public service is a disgrace., Major Monte Montes, US Army (ret.) Sullivan is woefully unqualified to be Governor. Press release. Shipley admits that he sometimes broke the platforms rules against releasing individuals personal information, but he contends that he was deplatformed for political reasons: he had been digging into the background of Nathan Phillips, a Native American veteran who appeared in a viral video with a student from Covington Catholic High School. Got it. That night, a representative from Military Phonies e-mailed Amber, saying that it usually took the group several weeks to put together a complete record, and pointing her to a list of Silver Star recipients compiled by a military historian named Doug Sterner. I hear youre something of a Medal of Honor historian, he said. After weeks of polling at third place, Sullivan this week released apolling memoshowing him tied in the lead with Bailey. Bob Ford, a former marine in his seventies, was harassed in front of a crowd by two men who were suspicious because his belt buckle appeared too ornate for his rank. Congress passed an amended statute, which made it illegal to fraudulently wear medals, embellish rank, or make false claims of service in order to obtain money or some other tangible benefit, making stolen valor an issue of fraud rather than of speech. Sullivan has managed to make a big splash in the Republican primary. These days, subscribers pay ten dollars a month for access to the Shipleys video library, along with regular live streams, Dianes recipes for Big Ass Meatballs and ass kickin cornbread, and Dons duck-hunting tips. Follow up question: How are vaccines hurting our children, Mr. Sullivan? - Oswego Willy - Monday, May 9, 22 @ 12:24 pm: That would be a far better use of resources and messaging, but egos and this needed want to steal valor to gun up I dont know its poor by a campaign and its crew that makes this whole thing performance art for cryptocurrency. - Grandson of Man - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 12:48 pm: Sullivan is throwing down a strong marker for other GOP candidates. will run this same ad with different faces. - Friendly Bob Adams - Monday, May 9, 22 @ 12:26 pm: I put the over/under for Sullivans vote percent at 15 for the primary election. Kinda awkward that his LG running mate hasnt commented yet. I think Id prefer he just yada, yada, yada me and tell me he likes the lobster bisque. There once was a MP battalion in Chicago (right behind Watertower. Only five of them are still living, and hes not one of them, so this guys a phony. And he stuck his hand out and said, Glad to meet you, Im Tom Cottone with the F.B.I. And that started our friendship.. He was a darn good deputy, Terry Joy, who had been the sheriff of Callahan County since 2013, told me. Umm, Jesse, I hate to be the one to tell you but we lost in Afghanistan. I came out swinging so hard at these guys on the Internet that I brought on flocks of these junior G-men who have nothing to do but patrol Walmart and accost people, he said. The accused mumbles nonsensical answers before slinking off, exposed and humiliated. Then people started bringing up the comments that Jowers had made during a debate with Foley. - Oswego Willy - Monday, May 9, 22 @ 12:00 pm: Wasnt Sullivan a contractor, not a DoD civilian? Callahan County, an agricultural region outside Abilene, Texas, is a place where people pay attention to their neighbors. Larry Mitchell Hopkins . Saying he was called to protect and serve in this context implies that he is/was a police officer. He also stated that he was a military veteran that was shot while serving his country., In response, Jowers posted an image of his DD 214, but it was oddly cropped, with key information outside the frame. Firing people who are not willing to get the vaccine, those frontline workers who have been taking on the burden of this crisis, and then youre going to fire them? After The Hunt for Red October, everyone was a submariner, Don Shipley, who investigates fake Navy SEALs, told me. If something strikes him as wrong, he feels obligated to fix it. - Oswego Willy - Monday, May 9, 22 @ 11:45 am: If Sullivan wanted to serve, he shouldve joined a branch of service. - Downstate Dem - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 10:14 am: From the 2022 Illinois Candidates Guide: INFLUENCING VOTERS WITH PUBLIC FUNDS - DuPage Dad - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:13 am: You know youre watching a Republican primary when you tout the Piatt County Sheriff as a feature of a television spot. D for the ad because the message wont move the needle positively for Sullivan. What would Sullivan do to get his agenda adopted in Illinois where Democrats are likely to still control the. Cmon. United States v. Alvarez, 567 U.S. 709 (2012), is a landmark decision in which the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that the Stolen Valor Act of 2005 was unconstitutional. - Frank talks - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 5:02 pm: Jesse should stop talking and get a running mate. - The Dude Abides - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 10:15 am: Ill give it a C-. - Pundent - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:56 am: Wouldnt the first step be a fundamental shift in the Guards focus and training? Id have to check the laws, but it certainly seems like Mr. Government Ethics is using local government resources for political purposes. Im laughing because it happened a lot, he said. On Reddit, civilians share stories of getting called out for wearing military-themed hoodies, and worry about whether theyre stealing valor by wearing camouflage pants. The activity has become a type of bonding exercise for former service members; some even seem to be reliving their war experience when hunting down phonies. - Google Is Your Friend - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:40 am: - Candy Dogood - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:43 am: The downside to being a woefully unprepared and woefully unqualified candidate for Governor of Illinois is that it doesnt take very long for the fascism to come out, but that is at least good for the voting public to learn about. LOL. No other GOP candidates were mentioned. *** UPDATE *** Another Sullivan press release. Instead, people called Bart a stalker. He added that he, like Foley, was an Airborne Ranger with combat wounds: I served my country, I took a bullet for my country. When a relative unknown named Jesse Sullivan jumped into the race earlier this month with a nearly $11 million out-of-state-funded campaign war chest, state Sen. Darren Bailey and businessperson Gary Rabine both called him a member of the San Francisco/Silicon Valley "elite" because that's where his business was located and where much of his I have dishonored all veterans. Typically, though, punishment is meted out online. Support Renewable Energy Credits. Someone you could actually call and feel comfortable about it, said Marcia Shumway, a local stay-at-home mom and home-school teacher, who, with her husband, Paul, supported Jowers in the race. Stupid and illegal. On September 7, 2006, the act, which made it a federal crime to falsely claim receipt of a military award or decoration, passed in the Senate by unanimous consent; President GeorgeW. Bush signed it into law soon afterward. When the Culture Wars Come for the Public Library. I think theyre unAmerican. The day Illinois voters quit voting for partys like your rooting for a baseball team is the day we will see true equality and economic growth. Like Burkett, Sterner verged on the obsessive. - Sir Reel - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 1:09 pm: And then a candidate takes a hard right on the way to the Republican primary. What year is it?) Last summer, Bart saw something odd at a nearby house. Has anyone looked into Chief Deputy Rick Jowers past? someone asked on Facebook. - City Guy - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 12:16 pm: F for the potential fall out. - Amalia - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 1:09 pm: - Carlos Danger - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 2:08 pm: Sorry, comments for this post are now closed. Culture shapes lies, too. He prides himself on being atrue conservativeand apolitical outsider,but hispast work for a Democratic candidateand aleaked photoof him wearing an Obama shirt years ago tells a different story. In 2015, Eric Lindinger, a Gulf War veteran, had a job that involved a lot of cross-country driving. Its a D, Sullivan is a phony to his want. Schimpf was born on an Air Force base in the Metro East, graduated from Annapolis Naval Academy, then graduated from law school and served 20 years in the US Marines, serving as the chief American adviser to prosecutors in Saddam Husseins trial. Im respectful, like all military people are. Jowers seemed thrown by his opponents tough-guy posturing, and offered a different vision for law enforcement in the county. - Arsenal - Monday, May 9, 22 @ 11:41 am: D. Dont continue to talk about your opponents attack. Marc Feldman, a psychiatrist who specializes in factitious disorder, a diagnosis that is given primarily to women who feign or produce illness or injury for emotional gratification, sees stolen valor as a less-studied offshoot of the same syndrome. - Give Us Barabbas - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 10:27 am: Spot must have been QC checked by the guys that made the wraps for the back of the semi trailers. Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar Rate Jesse Sullivan's He wrote that an official at the National Archives told him that he was probably the Archives number one individual FOIA user.. Grabbing popcorn, this might be fun to watch (hey, I didnt cause it). Kristin Davison Returns to Illinois to Help Elect Jesse Sullivan - Roadrager - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:12 am: - New Day - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:14 am: Oh my. Huh? Nobody's talking about the Sgt. Republicans are the pro-life party. Notes: Prospects Ed Howard, Alexander Canario and James Triantos take steps in their rehab. He set up Google news alerts for key phrases: prisoner of war, Navy Cross. I started coming across these guys putting themselves in local media as heroes, Caffrey told me. You always want to put a pretty young lady in a video if you can swing it. He started telephoning suspected liars, baiting them into telling ridiculous stories, and exposing them. I just need help in finding out if he does indeed have these medals.. And I wouldnt call McLean a county nobody has ever heard of. Hes trying everything to bury the baggage thats exposed serious contradictions about his past and his record,said DGA Illinois Press Secretary Yael Sheinfeld. Theyre hurting our children. Im not cop-trained, Im military-trained, he said, during a debate in Cross Plains, in January. Hed be enjoying an All-Star Special at Waffle House, where veterans can get a ten-per-cent discount, when a man would start asking questions about his military service. Ill say anything to get yer vote. David Gentry. The only vaccine mandate still in effect anywhere that was initiated by the government is the mandate for healthcare workers and that mandate was upheld by the Supreme Court. We all know what that means, IRVIN LIE: [Sullivan] advocates and supports open borders. Richard Irvin wont say where he stands on this issue. Stolen Valor : This ain't Hell, but you can see it from here Kevin Mays. They would send them harassing e-mails, or theyd get a phone number and post that up on YouTube, and people would be calling it really late.. Sullivan was part of what was known as the Armys Human Terrain System, which recruited civilians with social science backgrounds to help military commanders understand the local populations. The Sterners timing was fortuitous. Sorry, comments for this post are now closed. If the blackout lasts into the regular season, Comcast subscribers also wouldnt have access to NFL Red Zone. For his work abroad, Sullivan received the Secretary of Defense Medal for the Global War on Terrorism, and the Department of the Army Commanders Award for Civilian Service. Capitol Fax.com - Your Illinois News Radar Jesse Sullivan said he Also, comparing soldier combat deaths to civilian murder deaths is not even apples to oranges. Help Illinois Colleges And Universities Go Green. Try reading a little about history, maybe google Kent State massacre. - Huh? Within a few days, Foley resigned. Id give it a B for the target audience that wont see it if its been pulled. For a pretend soldier he doesnt know his history very well. That just adds to his pro-COVID views though. When Sterner learned of a fraudulent Medal of Honor claim, hed pass the information along to Cottone. So what sets these two apart on crime? And, for sure, this military combat claim needs to be cleared up right away. Are they going to try to out right wing each other because they have tothese former Democratic voters/supportersto win todays GOP base? - muon - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 12:05 pm: I think the Sullivan campaign is trying to find a lane. Dude, you should have spent some of that early money on message and media training. Adding Check out the front license plate on the car on the far left. GOP Gubernatorial Candidate's Past Comes Back To Haunt Him - He Founded (Phillips has claimed that he served during Vietnam times, but he was actually a reservist who never served in Vietnam; he also went AWOL a number of times.) You want to pair that with his hollow words on public safety, you might have something. Kevin Prohaska. - Three Dimensional Checkers - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:17 am: Thanks bros, but I dont need to be saved especially by someone of Jesse Sullivans ilk. underscored the importance of DOD civilians to the overall effort, saying, Civilians who volunteered to serve at the front in Afghanistan were critical to protecting our nation from jihadist terrorists who use mass murder as their principal tactic in a war against all civilized people. I wonder if his campaign has reached out to Arthur Jones yet about being his running mate. - DuPage - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 10:15 am: Maybe all he could afford to pay for was one ad. He often points to his business background as an example of his leadership, but one of his nonprofits owed money to the state of California and another waslisted as delinquent., And those are just the highlights.With days to go, Jesse Sullivan is bending over backwards to rewrite history. Speak much Jesse? but were not going to try to run our sheriffs department like the military., Around Christmas, Bart Kendrick went public on Facebook with his accusation about Foleys residency, sure that it would tank his candidacy. He talked about his sniper training and the bullets hed taken for his country. Hope leaves. I spent 30 years in civilian law enforcement and 8 years in a military police guard unit in Illinois. Documenting and debunking fakers has become easier as more of our lives have moved online. Through games of Sunday, scoring is up when compared to March and April of 2022. In the evening, the truck had been replaced by a patrol car. Instead, the campaign claimed, Sullivan led a small team consisting usually of another human terrain analyst, possibly a social scientist depending on the mission, and an interpreter, which would, embed with a military unit. Sullivan, was responsible for translating military objectives into collection priorities, executing the collection mission, reporting back, and advising the military decision-making process.. Even so, there were only a handful of people regularly investigating false military claims. It's again pinging the stolen valor want, someone who has this idea he's been "called" to protect and serve, when in actuality a commercial with a highlighting a candidate "at night" with. I have always believed in the sanctity of life. And you look at the corrupt war zone that we have, a thousand murders in Cook County? The videos, with their blend of vigilante justice and public callouts, hit several social-media sweet spots; watching them makes me feel both rapt and queasy, particularly when the accusers anger feels disproportionate to the situation. A decade ago, Shipley began posting YouTube videos debunking false SEAL claims. The lies that people tell shift with the appetites of the era. Now, with just days to go, hes trying anything he can to grab voters attention in a last-minute hail mary. - LakeCo - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 1:24 pm: =Theyre hurting our children.= I briefly embedded with some in Iraq. Were on a mission from God. As someone who, you know, you began with the commercial being on the civilian intelligence side over in Afghanistan, you see the power of our military and their abilities. Sullivan denies charges of signature fraud on primary petitions Sad to see the crazies are out in force- again, still.. - Gdubya - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 4:29 pm: Williams: Do you support the mask mandates and the vaccine mandates? What? - Chambananon - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:42 am: State law prohibits State employees from using State resources for political purposes. Veterans from across the state also published an open letter this morning, saying, Every veteran who served in combat served alongside Department of Defense civilians. - vole - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 3:27 pm: unAmerican is getting to need some definition. As to unAmerican, chomping at the bit to use military force against American citizens is unAmerican. Very good ad for stoking GOP base obsession with police and crime. People lie about their service in YouTube clips, Facebook posts, and text messages; researchers have exposed a man who claimed on a dating site to have been on the SEAL team that took out Osama bin Laden, and another who posted photographs of himself wearing a Green Beret uniform on his wedding day. So far, I am not impressed one bit. I am not a veteran. Breaking Radical - Conservative Intelligence Briefing | Facebook Justwhat? - Dotnonymous - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 2:18 pm: Jesse Sullivan declares American cities War Zones requiring National Guard soldiers to hunt down criminals. If you bought season tickets to see a team and thought that the team would make your dreams come true because of your investment or that the players would be there forever, sorry. Its astonishing to me that the Republican Party as a whole really is not concerned about peoples health and that they might be killing people with their anti-vax, anit-mask stance. And, obviously, guard members who are not from an area would have limited abilities as crime detectives. In fact, according to the Civil War historian William Marvel, every one of the last dozen recognized Confederates was bogus. But its only recently that lying about military service has been considered a particularly heinous form of lying, one with its own name: stolen valor. Some guys were just really out for blood, he said. Seems like we need an honest debate on which side of American best suits our group survival. I mean when PQ won his election, didnt he lose just about all the states counties (except for a couple)? Otherwise, he should correct the misleading language on his website.. he was a civilian contractor, never active duty, and not a veteran. The liar inevitably starts calling him sir. I took lessons from Patton, Shipley said. Meh. - Rudys teeth - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 1:08 pm: Can Jesse Sullivan buy a set of talented advisors who could direct his message? - northsider (the original) - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 12:01 pm: - Excitable Boy - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 12:02 pm: If Sullivan wants to play soldier so bad why doesnt he just join the military and spare us the theatrics? D. - here we go - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:09 am: Sounds a lot like the Irvin Campaign commercials. Last February, YouTube suspended Shipleys channel for harassment. Yeah, I was wondering about that. - Henry Francis - Tuesday, Mar 29, 22 @ 9:07 am: A man of faith, called to serve and protect. Federal mask mandate for air travel is over, but wearing one is still the best option, Food delivery apps helped my restaurant survive, thrive, Amazon workers actions should ignite a labor revolution, Stay close, pull it out late? I am pretty confident that Sullivan will carry Menard County. Vaccines have been required for schools, the military, and some employers for a long time. The neophyte Sullivan has peppered his campaign website and announcement with photos of himself in military uniform. It wasnt illegal to lie about a medalit was only when you pinned it on your lapel that you broke the law. It was a venting session that at times became very loud, earnest, and hard to ignore, Sterner wrote in Restoring Valor: One Couples Mission to Expose Fraudulent War Heroes and Protect Americas Military Awards System. His vehemence at first irritated Pam, who had gone back to school to study political science and had an assignment due the next day; then it inspired her. He kept having odd interactions with strangers. When I joined the military decades ago, I was required to get a regimen of vaccines, more when deploying overseas. Bart is a deliberate man with a long, wiry beard. Cyril Pelkey. On his campaign Facebook page, he displayed his medals: a Silver Star, for valor in combat, and a Purple Heart. . Absolutely. Burkett caught so many people distorting or inventing their military service that he wondered whether the dissemblers might be evidence of a national phenomenon, a weird ripple in the American psyche. By 1989, Burkett was averaging one FOIA request a day. If you cant answer Did you serve? Do County Sheriffs police vehicles not count for some reason? My military doesnt have nothing to do with what Im doing for the county right now, he said. On the Reddit boards, people will talk about what makes them suspicious that someone is not a real vet, Kristiana Willsey, a folklorist at the University of Southern California who studies military narratives, said. Thats poor messaging. Breaking Radical Globalist Jesse Sullivan's Stolen Valor Scandal And The Anti-Israeli Magazine He Founded Could Destroy His Candidacy For Illinois Governor:. When a relative unknown named Jesse Sullivan jumped into the race earlier this month with a nearly $11 million out-of-state-funded campaign war chest, state Sen. Darren Bailey and businessperson Gary Rabine both called him a member of the San Francisco/Silicon Valley elite because thats where his business was located and where much of his campaign money came from. He began to film himself knocking on the door and getting no answer. Sullivan: Absolutely not. =And then also the kids in schools and keeping them out of school= Lets go save Illinois. But, how much will that really matter? And he said, There are places out there that will research things like this., On January 13th, Amber filled out a form on Military Phonies, one of a number of Web sites dedicated to exposing people who invent or inflate their military service. He photographed the trash can by the road to show that its contents never changed. (It doesn't help, though that, even then, he would make the distinction to reporters that he was a "real Marine," like in a March 1981 Washington Evening Star . - Steve Rogers - Thursday, Jan 27, 22 @ 11:20 am: When it takes 200 words to say something you could say in 20 words, you really have a communication problem. Im on time, like all military people are. Many years ago, I worked for an employer in a congregate setting that required certain vaccines as a condition of employment.