In both cases, part of the gimmick is the interchangeability of their accessories, who represent whole characters in their own right, suggesting the toys are indeed meant to have some kind of scaling with each other. Similarly, Silverbolt (a Concorde jet) is dramatically undersized compared to his fighter-jet Aerialbot teammates. Thus, Bumblebee comes up to Wheeljack's waist, which is show-accurate, but results in Bumblebee turning into a very small Volkswagen Beetle; were vehicle mode scale used, Bumblebee would actually be slightly larger. I already modified it 6 different times based on some suggestions. Even if one character's a twenty-metre fighter jet and the other's a five-metre pickup truck. The following line, Earthrise, even went so far as to make Deluxe Cliffjumper considerably smaller all around than the other Deluxes, but filled out his price tag with his giant bazooka accessory. Transformers Alternate Mode Chart (All Michael Bay Transformers and Bumblebee Movie) The Buzz 301K subscribers Subscribe 1.4M views 3 years ago #OptimusPrime #BumblebeeMovie #Transformers. Transformers: Robots in Disguise (2001 franchise), Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, Unicron: Jupiter-sized (so approximately 140,000km in diameter). Megatron, however, is a pitifully tiny specimen of a T. rex. Main article: List of Transformers: Prime Episodes. Guess Who the Mecannibals Are Having for Dinner? Instead, they're about the same size. Devastator is a Decepticon combiner from the Generation 1 continuity family. Hasbro actually displayed mock-ups for an unproduced line of "military" Transformers in scale with Alternators during the BotCon 2007 Hasbro Tour; two of them recycled parts of Armada Unicron, and were thus Supreme-sized, which made said potential toyline not particularly commercially viable for Hasbro. Fan Art. Optimus Prime was the first Prime to raise his hand in greeting, uniting all the Primes and becoming their official mediator. A minority also lamented that the expensive animation budgeted the number of character models they could render, and thus led to a relatively small cast and an isolated setting. The original G1 Optimus Prime toy also has scale issues. Size class | Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki | Fandom In the original cartoon, Transformers that act as transport for other Transformers, such as Astrotrain, Skyfire, and Cosmos, will often dramatically change size relative to their compatriots between one shot and the next. Combaticon (G1) - Transformers Wiki That these toys represent hyper-evolved beings most of the time make it all the more head-scratch-inducing. Transformers fiction commonly shrinks or inflates characters, relative to their toy sizes. The chart below displays the new prices. The follow-up to that line, Transformers GT, packed each 1:32-scale toy with a 3 3/4-inch Microman "GT Sister" figure, making the girls positively giant when compared to the cars. Blaster becomes a human-scale radio; Megatron shrinks into a handgun scaled for either Transformer or human hands, depending on the situation. Discussion in 'Transformers Earthspark and Cartoon Discussion' started by Bountyan, Oct 23, 2011. report. Yet when Skywatch discovers Laserbeak at the end of the story, his head alone is suddenly the size of an adult human. One story even features Roadhandler carrying a human passenger in his vehicle form, as though he were a full-sized car. The scale problems extend to the details. Newcomer Alpha Bravo is also undersized if his windows are anything to go by. although it saw a line-wide price increase in later waves. Skyquake is slightly taller than Prime. In Season 3, it was rerecorded with a background music and the "Beast Hunters" logo. A single Transformer's size is rarely consistent between artists. Really teeny passengers (notable exceptions are Grindor (in his original body), Sureshock, and High Wire, who become small one-man conveyances). E.g., Blaster's toy, in robot mode, is taller than most other Transformers. Optimus Prime is also usually shown as only a head or so shorter than Magnus (if that), which gets very strange when you realize that a redeco of Prime's toy forms but a small part of Magnus' robot mode. Deluxe Class, at US$10. Nevertheless, if one assumes that most vehicle altmodes are intended for human-sized passengers, comparing toys such as Chromedome with Lightspeed suggests the scale problem continues. Even when toys with considerable size differences are sold in the same pack, combinations such as a Leader-sized Optimus Prime (which would be in scale with Deluxe-sized Autobots with car alternate modes) with the much smaller Legends Class versions of Bumblebee and Jazz or the large Ultimate Bumblebee toy with the much smaller Deluxe-sized toys of Scorponok (who should be roughly the same size as Bumblebee) and Brawl (who should be considerably larger than either of them) are fairly common. Other scale problems come from characters who transform into the same (or similar) alternate modes, but whose toys are different sizes. His cab is 1/48 scale, but his trailer is closer in scale to the Autobot Cars, which fall more in the neighborhood of 1/35 to 1/40 scale-wise. Cookie Notice As a side note, Unicron has been established in some continuities as having already devoured approximately 22.56% of known universes which is truly ridiculous if one takes actual planetary/galactic scale into consideration. hide. It goes without saying that the Titan and planetformer toys (such as Fortress Maximus and Unicron) are not remotely to scale with normal Transformer toys. For example, on the cover of the first issue of the original Transformers comics series, Optimus Prime is extremely huge compared to the highway, bridge, and normal cars (Laserbeak is bigger than usual, too). The Mini-Cons of the Unicron Trilogy are another race of small robots who stand approximately the same height as humans and, like the Micromasters before them, are clearly modeled to carry passengers. The Thirteenth Prime. While this introduces a nice range of options for the discerning collector, it can also lead to some problems. Terms like "Legends scale", "Deluxe scale", "Voyager scale", etc. The cartoon somewhat got around this by depicting the heads of the Headmasters as significantly larger than their human and Nebulan pilots, though this may make Chromedome's issues even worse. However, given that a working interior that can fit an entire to-scale humanoid would likely compromise a lot of the engineering, many figures designed with this play feature in mind have the driver be far too small in comparison to their vehicle. From his newly-erected fortressDarkmount, Megatron reestablishes contact withShockwave, learning the scientist has cloned aPredaconfor the intent of hunting down the Autobots. Within the fandom, the show quickly won fans over, an impressive feat for the chronological successor to the widely lovedTransformers Animated. Originally, the intent was apparently to make the popular Optimus and Megatron characters available at lower price points than just the large and expensive "Leader" class, so that children with less money would not miss out, and perhaps persuading completist-minded collectors to buy multiple versions of one character. Toys out of scale with others in the same line, Toys slightly out of scale with others in the same assortment, Intentional attempts at a consistent scale, Wait till you see the artist's rendition of a scale-accurate version, tiny (and correctly scaled) version of Scorponok, characters who traditionally don't have automobile alternate modes, giant, transformer-sized humanoids on an alien planet. Any thoughts on how tall you think Megatron 2.0 is? Transformers fiction often depicts characters to the same relative scale as the toys, which duplicates the intra-toyline problems described above. Among other changes, Blast Off's initial release was a significantly smaller jet, Swindle's tiny steering wheel suggests him to be around the same size as Brawl, Long Haul is significantly bigger than his team, and Groove is a much smaller Legends Class figure, while newcomer Rook takes his place as one of Defensor's limbs. If he's the size of a real truck, Prime in robot mode should be 810 m (25'30') tall, at best. The movie universe characters aren't immune to scale issues, either; the Dinobots are way out of proportion compared to their real-life counterparts; such as Strafe (who is far too big for a Pteranodon compared to his allies), and Scorn (who isn't quite as problematic; though a real Spinosaurus had shorter legs, making his proportions more of an issue than actual scale). Here is the height chart for the leaders in "TRANSFORMERS: DIVISION". Before the Great War, Optimus Prime was originally known as Orion Pax; a young data clerk who worked in Iacon, under the wing of Alpha Trion. Animated departs from this, where Decepticons are sometimes depicted larger than the Autobots to emphasize the rookie nature of the team handling imposing and dangerous enemies. The creators of the live-action movie took great pains to avoid out-of-scale issues (well, greater than previous franchises). The series is linked to an extensive marketing line of toys, games, clothing, and accessories for kids. Despite this, Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, Bulkhead, Ratchet, Starscream, and Soundwave are the only characters from Transformers: Prime to make a comeback in this new show. Mentally, on the other hand, he's very much less than the sum of his parts. Unfortunately, for practical reasons this limited the choice of altmodes. 2y. Beast Wars likewise had an official scale guide, which appeared as a bonus on the DVD set of Season 2. The Titans Return version of Broadside actually makes it worse: The figure includes tiny versions of the Aerialbots (styled specifically after their Combiner Wars alternate modes) to place on various spots on his aircraft carrier mode, but at the same time this Broadside is also a Headmaster with a Titan Master figure that can ride inside his jet mode's cockpit, arguably making the Titan Master alone larger than the Combiner Wars Aerialbots' Superion gestalt form if scale were to be taken at face value and yet the entire play pattern of the Titans Return line explicitly calls for Broadside and his Titan Master Blunderbuss to be compatible and interchangeable with any other figure and Titan Master in the line, most of whom are supposed to be much smaller in scale. Within the animation, this causes problems with their Mini-Con partners, who are depicted as human-sized in robot mode by themselves, but when shown directly interacting with their larger partners, are scaled up right along with their partner resulting in some temporarily gigantic Mini-Cons! In the Bayverse, years-and probably because Bay and Co. weren't thinking about scale. However, despite being by far the shortest of the Maximals, Rattrap is still a monstrously huge rat, the size of a Labrador dog (indeed, the writers stated that Season 1 Rattrap was 5' (1.5 m) tall[3]). Prime Arcee is about 15 feet tall if I recall correctly. Height Chart | Transformers Prime: RP Transformers Prime: RP Transformers Prime: RP OOC Fun stuff Height Chart Members Search We are a literate, intermediate to advanced AU Transformers RPG Based off of the first season of TFP with dashes of other incarnations sprinkled here or there. That said, the show is notuniversallyloved, and not just becauseBumblebee was better when he could speak. Likewise, the Beast Era Maximals and Predacons possess roughly human-size bodies; yet when portrayed as vehicles on Cybertron ("Dawn of Future's Past", the Vehicons in Beast Machines), they feature seats and cockpits that, at their size, should be basically useless. Further, Cheetor and Tigatron's toys use the same (Deluxe) mold, but Tigatron is a head taller in the show (both because tigers are larger than cheetahs, and because Cheetor is "a kid"). The robot mode scaling is generally very consistent to the chosen source, but there are still a few oddities, particularly when dealing with older figures being reissued or redecoed after MP-10. Furthermore, the Dreamwave miniseries Micromasters suggested that the Micromasters were scaled down to interact more easily with "smaller beings". Transformers are currently formalised to a variety of size classes, which dictate the approximate cost and dimensions of a figure. Welcome to Teletraan I: The Transformers Wiki. Sometimes the cartoon would show ordinarily-scaled characters such as Cyclonus, Thrust or Huffer carrying another Transformer in their cockpit, implying either a tiny passenger or a huge vehicle. Far worse is the other Diaclone combiner team, the Trainbots, who have train engine altmodes, yet their toys are among the smallest of the Diaclone releases. (Weirdly, the King Kong-like size of this toy became canon in one specific micro-continuity. So, at least in that micro-continuity, they were human-sized or Powermaster Optimus Prime is the size of Devastator. Starscream's robot mode is nearly as wide as it is tall, with shorter, digitigrade legs, so the massive jet-former won't end up twice as tall as Optimus. Even a two mode toy can have this problem. Another notable example is the splash screen for the "World of the Transformers" website, which depicts Optimus Primal (in his original gorilla body) as the same size as G1 Optimus Prime and Movie Optimus Prime, directly contradicting the size difference seen in "Optimal Situation" and elsewhere (except for Robotmasters). Despite this guide, the series writers have indicated some measure of disregard for relative scale when it suited the needs of dramatic tension. "Giant" characters such as Omega Supreme are, even aside from any size changing for transport purposes, clearly not in the same scale in toy form as they are depicted on screen. Here's is an unoffical Height chart of the famous Robot in Disguise From left to right, Here are his alt. 1.2k. He should be able to carry all his teammates in his bed, with some crowding. Sometimes this is deliberate, allowing them to match their toy scale and/or be of a similar size to other characters; in other cases, it is essentially an artistic error. I recall reading years ago that Bayverse Optimus stood at somewhere between 28' - 32' tall, and that Bayverse Megatron stood supposedly at 35' feet tall (according to magazine articles and TFWiki). Optimus Primeunleashes theMatrix of Leadership, but at the cost of losing his memory, thereby allowing Megatron to manipulate him into joining the Decepticons' ranks. Characters such as Devastator and Menasor are frequently shown as Godzilla-sized. Many of the wheeled vehicles are close to 1:35 scale, although Deluxe Class Jazz and Classic Camaro Bumblebee are obviously not the same scale, as noted above. Even Omega Supreme, who is supposed to be huge, would have to have a greatly expanded scale for his rocket ship component to accommodate passengers as shown on the cartoon.