startxref Remingtons bullet had a slight shoulder, which was part of the problem. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. %PDF-1.4 % For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Pending. I have a.s.m.black powder only cal. "When tyranny becomes law rebellion becomes duty" Thomas Jefferson, http://powderhombre.com/mbpproofmarks.pdf, ORANGE COUNTY REGULATORS,UP THE CREEK GANG ,LIFE MEMBER OF JACKSON HOLE REGULATORS,DOOLEY GANG,PRAYER POSSE, Tusco Long Riders, Brown Township Regulators, Firelands Peacemakers, Ohio Valley Vigilantes, Indiana Black Powder Guild, Wild Bunch Rules Committee, Chisum Cowboys, NRA Life member; Eagle Scout, Circle K Regulators, DbarD Wranglers, Boot Hill Regulators,Matamoros Mavericks. You need to take the buttstock off & look on the receiver. 0000039614 00000 n Notably, there are some minor spots of tarnish on the trigger guard and some handling wear at the muzzle. During the 1960's, 1970's, and even into the 1980's there was a bonanza market for these replica revolvers. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. Make: Uberti. This restriction is made under protest, but we have to do this to comply with Californias infringement on the freedoms of speech and association of the NRA and our members, supporters, and the general public. The barrel pictured is a perfect example as it bears all of the Italian proof These are the guns that REALLY, "Won The West!" To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year Click to join here. If you wish to send some photographs to the magazine I'm sure they will forward them to me and I may be able to help you more. It was made in 1980 and has all of the standard proof marks but I don't know who manufactured the rifle. The top of the barrel is marked "A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Finally, as a collector of antique weapons, I have to say that I would not like these marks to be omitted entirely. It was a redesign of the Army's Allin Trapdoor rifle. 94 W. Cochran St., Suite B The proof marks are described in Table 2. 0 To view prices realized you must be an "Archives Member". All are very friendly, and if any of you have a problem with the way your weapon percolates, there will be at least a half dozen guys who have experienced the same problems, and they will be delighted to help with advice. Faithful Rendition. 0000008724 00000 n Year Mark Year Mark Year Mark Year Mark Year Mark Year Mark Year. 0000078152 00000 n This includes not only information about their purchase and use, but also the promotion of firearm safety and training. It was not rust bluing, but looked close enough to it to satisfy us. (Most are Zoli, and are good. ) It is in the 2,000 serial range and has GU mark. 0000046756 00000 n 0000011024 00000 n Nit mine but it is just like this one in the link below. I copied this form the CAS City forum. 35 0 obj <> endobj That's your build date. Uberti offers versions of all three Colt Dragoon revolvers in their line-up and the one we have here is a standard civilian Second model. The proof house marks and manufacturing code are stamped elsewhere on the gun. 0000008224 00000 n 0000037734 00000 n Thank you. 0000001537 00000 n 0000002932 00000 n On a visit to the Uberti factory I saw an example of an aged Colt 1860 Army revolver and had it not been for the Italian marks it could very easily have passed as an original. Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. HV{PTwjrh"1 fv] It has a brass frame, trigger guard and back strap, 1851 style -no top strap. i Have a black powder pistol with the star circle over PN with AC in a square next to it and the crossed rifles with the star circle over it and it has 2115 R a P over an R and FTE Italy on the butt. ,!x#B3`Ev Only flaw I noticed is the screw securing the wedge is a bit off center to the left. This company was formed in 1970 and used the initials of its three founders, Grassi, Doninelli and Gazzola to make up an emblem. I was recently given an Italian made.58 Remington 1863 "Zouave". 4. In fact, if you leave the lever partly open, its possible to shove the carrier down so it can catch the first round loaded. I'm looking for information on what models of revolvers were made by Palmetto Arms. [CDATA[*/var out = '',el = document.getElementsByTagName('span'),l = ['>','a','/','<',' 116',' 105',' 46',' 97',' 116',' 116',' 101',' 105',' 112',' 64',' 111',' 102',' 110',' 105','>','\"',' 116',' 105',' 46',' 97',' 116',' 116',' 101',' 105',' 112',' 64',' 111',' 102',' 110',' 105',':','o','t','l','i','a','m','\"','=','f','e','r','h','a ','<'],i = l.length,j = el.length;while (--i >= 0)out += unescape(l[i].replace(/^\s\s*/, '&#'));while (--j >= 0)if (el[j].getAttribute('data-eeEncEmail_mePVxTdjTo'))el[j].innerHTML = out;/*]]>*/, I am trying to identify and find the value of a Pietta black powder pistol that was given to me. My heart bleeds for you gun lovers in the U.K. Its not as fast to reload as, say, a Winchester 1873, but it does hold lots of ammo. Every percussion revolver that Colt made has been reproduced by one or other of these companies. Copyright 2023 Aceville Publications Ltd. I think it is probably a newer reproduction just wanted to check safety of shooting it. The action proof marks were under the action just behind the loading platform. We'll start about there. Not consenting or withdrawing consent, may adversely affect certain features and functions. 0000001770 00000 n Copyright 2011-2023 All Rights Reserved. The chart will enable you to determine the date your gun was proved. From these humble beginnings has grown an industry catering for the needs of shooters, re-enactors and collectors Worldwide. You are using an out of date browser. These letters will sometimes be found in a circle. Pietta serial number Question | The Muzzleloading Forum Pages, photographs and artwork from this site are the sole property of River Junction Trade Co. LLC, and may not be used or reproduced in whole or in part without written permission. The only marks are "NAVY ARMS CO" on the left side of the frame and on the barrel top flat, on the right side of the barrel "MADE IN ITALY" and the letters "GU" in script. As a young boy I had the privilege of hunting rabbits with my great grandfathers Henry rifle that belonged to his father and now belonged gs to my Uncle. #6. Uberti Reproduction Colt Model Dragoon - Gun Mart Other side says Palmer brescia Italy. ix)]'Aa-;O;KGg 6+Rg^vF$^og>XxZaNz:E Just wondering what firm F.A.R.A was/is? To my amazement, I found another Uberti/Colt .22 single action at Collector Firearms' web site . The first proof mark, which appears on all weapons produced in Italy since 1950, is a star within a wavy edged circle (I have seen this described as lands and grooves of rifling) above a crest in a shield. Posted December 23, 2014. Wed buy this one instantly if we wanted a brass gun for fun. (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address). The Winchester won a clear victory in that head-to-head test of lever actions, but we were intrigued by the Henry nonetheless. All the .44s (including the Phantoms) were in the range of 75918 to 75954 and all the .22s (except 75255) were in the range of 75955 to 75985. 6) Pietta's logo and name stamp. 0000003864 00000 n Springfield Trapdoor Rifle | Uberti USA Replica Rifles and Revolvers Can you advise me as to where I could get this information? If you take the grips off there could be a mark on the brass underneath. Barrel Length:9.5, Half-Round, Half-Octagonal. This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. PDF PROOF MARKS ProoF MarKs - NRA Museum Our Assessment:This Uberti replica of the Remington Rolling Block pistol is a single-shot pistol chambered for more modern .22 Hornet rounds. COLT 1873 BUCKHORN S.A. TARGET (TMR) cal .44 Magnum. Like the other rifle, the back edge of the Ubertis chamber had sharp corners, though no burrs, and a bit of time with a scraper there should answer most loading questions. Italy" is on the bottom of the barrels. is 1350. I can't find it through their pictures. 0000005942 00000 n were all sharp enough to cut the hands. There were no other markings on the rifle. The gun is beautifully finished and it remains mechanically sound. (JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)/*','a','/','<',' 109',' 111',' 99',' 46',' 111',' 111',' 104',' 97',' 121',' 64',' 48',' 57',' 57',' 49',' 119',' 101',' 104',' 116',' 116',' 97',' 109',' 110',' 101',' 101',' 114',' 103','>','\"',' 109',' 111',' 99',' 46',' 111',' 111',' 104',' 97',' 121',' 64',' 48',' 57',' 57',' 49',' 119',' 101',' 104',' 116',' 116',' 97',' 109',' 110',' 101',' 101',' 114',' 103',':','o','t','l','i','a','m','\"','=','f','e','r','h','a ','<'],i = l.length,j = el.length;while (--i >= 0)out += unescape(l[i].replace(/^\s\s*/, '&#'));while (--j >= 0)if (el[j].getAttribute('data-eeEncEmail_zIpBdHhcMK'))el[j].innerHTML = out;/*]]>*/. Simi Valley, CA 93065. there is no calibre or name on it. Another Brescia based company, Armi Sport, marks their guns with AC within a circle. 0000004778 00000 n We tested mainly with PMC cowboy-type ammo, which is a mild load with a hard lead bullet. Black Powder Arms - Welcome Written and photographed by Ray Ordorica, using evaluations from Gun Tests team testers. I suspect your CR is really a poor stamping of CB, which would be 2007. check out the. Good luck on your bid! OCT. 16. 0000004871 00000 n We did note the edges of just about everything the front gate system, the edges of the magazine cut along the bottom of the rifle, etc. 0000051690 00000 n Because I am an Amateur Historian, I carry for Self-Defense, one of three identical five and a half inch barreled, Remington 1858's, in a shoulder holster. I have often heard it said, more than once by myself, that the markings on these guns could be a little more subtle, especially in the case of an attractive looking piece such as the Uberti Remington New Model army in charcoal blue and case hardened finish. These are very scarce and near impossible to find in such fine original condition. We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. There were ultimately 5 variations of the Remington Rolling Block pistol culminating with the Model 1871. Loading the rifle was easy, by which we mean the follower easily raised the front lock to let the gate swing open without any of the fiddling the Henrys version needed. 357 MAG." and features several Italian proof marks. b` I"G3M9YCNxB5)f(1TVVA |7dZgM gBg >noPow l+zyU"^-0x5LH2O4~3z1RuYC.5,CJc38Z"(:o0IoJ(V-7Lvh{_.#DAh8 I have one 4 revolving barrel handgun, percussion, double action, looks like 36 caliber. There is some pitting towards the muzzle end of the bore. RIDGEFIELD N.J. MADE IN ITALY" and there are Italian proof marks at the chamber including the date code "AA". ITALY". HT=0+ @|7IqE.sQ"$9>tB}vUe&iF=P[mEjo(lHBRAu)0u^Y_8Ii)uLBAo*3 3SL*l4r_g[#}eF9ihFCym>s@MRFzaVLz8 any information would be of help. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. By Overall Condition:The pistol retains about 95% of its metal finish. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Remingtons New Model Army revolver is also a favourite and we have seen single and double action Starr pistols and lately a Whitney Navy revolver. We found the barrel flats to be properly done. A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. The collective knowledge of the members of this Forum, must total several hundred years. Recoil was not an issue. Thats not enough recommendation for us to invest in the Henry Original, so we began looking for a similarly styled levergun and found the Uberti version of 1860 Henry for a lot less money. There is no maker marks on this rifle at all.The proof marks say it is made in 1967.The links in it look like they could handle 44-40.I took it down all the way but pull the barrel off and no maker marks.I have had 4 Uberti 22s over the years and they all had Uberti on them somewhere.This is the smoothest of all of the ones I have had,but still don't know who made it.I had a lever safety or at least had a place for one.This is the only one that the forearm barrel band is brass and the sight band is brass. The right side of the chamber is marked "CAL. Mine is just as you described yours, except that between the lever and lifter screws on the bottom of the receiver is the familiar Uberti symbol, A "U" inside the muzzle end of an octagon barrel. Did that Dawg,nothing.There is a serial number on the receiver right in front of the lever and below the carrier and a proof mark above the carrier.There are two proof marks on the barrel and a roman numeral just in front of the receiver.Nothing on the tangs at all.It had a lever safety on it a onetime and someone took it out.It was said to be a Uberti but it does not have Uberti on it anywhere.I have had 4 Uberti 22s and this one is the only one with out Uberti on the tang.It is the smoothest and you can run it faster than any of the other ones. Joseph Rider, Remingtons Chief Designer, modified Geigers design into a pistol in 1866. ITALY. 1860. The top tang of the action held the designation MOD. The era of reproduction Western firearms began in the early 1950s when Val Forgett, of the American Navy Arms company, visited this area of Italy in search of a manufacturer who could make a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver. Reaction score. The proof house marks and manufacturing code are stamped elsewhere on the gun. I belong to an on-line forum, called,"1858Remington.com. Where can I find them.Got a 22 cal I would like to find out about.1866,from Navy Arms no name or modle. Whilst the makers marks are there principally for advertising and recognition, the proof marks and serial number are obligatory and will always take the same form. Englishmen are not CITIZENS, they are SUBJECTS! JavaScript is disabled. A forum community dedicated to Colt firearm owners and enthusiasts. Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. But when you close the lever to the firing position, that round is not brought up into battery. I bought a 36 Cal. 0000011515 00000 n 1940 1953 IX 1966 XXII 1979 AE 1992 BB 2005 BZ 2018 CT. UBERTI ITALY and the serial number. (The word Phanton was actually spelled that way on the order.) Eho is the manufacturer ? If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. The Henry rifle worked well enough but had a nasty job of overbuffing, we thought, that gave the brass action a mirror polish at the expense of destroying the edges of the octagonal flats of the barrel. Hi, Dennis To view prices realized you must be an "Archives Member". It had an extremely heavy trigger pull. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} Even has the same box. gSchf41,%0&nMF;RD}|MY3-!!6m"m._Z8eGW7F]_[jGFS/`L{U\_&?4c@4xhZ+FGmLQA!^D9`xk'3'SL`AbE39a1Xl72t1Hl>|l lX3r7 @^o5I+u`,cB|H^iaPcbxW|)skz5UXx?8|qAo:"QUvbsd,!BD_Z6R'z~oAWF|1b+Q5,J[D:Spx%Ojoqo[$4gxcX-)I._[2$)Kfk4Z?X-DNP[I1bv(~SE_m6#O. It was sold through Beeman's catalog in 1984. I have a Uberti made .44 Mag. endstream endobj 36 0 obj <> endobj 37 0 obj <>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 38 0 obj <> endobj 39 0 obj <> endobj 40 0 obj [/DeviceN[/Black]/DeviceCMYK 63 0 R 64 0 R] endobj 41 0 obj <> endobj 42 0 obj <>stream The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. The major manufacturers could not meet the demand and American distributors wanted more of and different models of what were being produced. The company has used this mark since it produced its first reproduction, a Colt 1851 Navy, in 1959. This replica is chambered for a modern cartridge, making for an interesting pistol suitable for target shooting and varmint hunting. Each and every one of these guns must undergo testing at the Proof house and be stamped with the appropriate acceptance marks. The magazine held 13 rounds, despite the manual saying it was 10. 0000003080 00000 n I have always wanted one of my own so about 12 years ago I purchased a Uberti 1860 Henry and absolutely loved it! Gun Review: The 1858 Remington Revolver :: Guns.com The markings remain clear. First Year of Production Navy Arms, 1851 Navy Revolver r2 e< 1{Vk)} Uberti set the standard for producing quality replica firearms by which all others are judged. it is scratched badly with sand paper in a horrible restore. 0000007873 00000 n Frascarelli. Model:Replica Remington Rolling Block Pistol, Year of Manufacture:1975, Italian date code AA, Action Type:Single-Shot Rolling-Block style Pistol with Extractor. To our knowledge that problem does not exist with the 44-40 version, so if you opt for this caliber, use some sense in choosing your ammunition. The barrel and cylinder are the usual Uberti black rather than the blue of the originals and the finish is to a high standard, indicating good polishing before the finish was applied. Strong main spring. H\j0~ Behind that were two Italian proof marks. Perfect timing. Heres what we found. 0000050889 00000 n Cylinder tight when trigger pulled all the way back. A copy of a telex communication dated September 9, 1986 from Colt Firearms to Aldo Uberti & Co. ordering 65 firearms (five Phanton .44 Mag and 60 SA firearms in .22 and .44 Mag in 4 , 5 and 7 inch barrel lengths).