Comment by 08 October 2018. 18 September 2018. Frank - the position does not really change, only the facts do and who is willing to confirm them. My dad paid on his house and come to find out he bought my step moms share out but did not know that the deeds and title are in his deaceased mother and father in laws name he paid the mortgage by himself for 30 years now he cant sell his house at all. 08 November 2019. Rachael AdamH 03 August 2020. This has a 1900's stamped Duplicate Lease (parchment) 999 years, states original lease stamped with . 15 May 2018. Steph posted on john c Our family owns two very old, adjoining properties that share a passageway to their rear. (Lenders are often reluctant to lend while there is a mismatch), Ian A Glen - wait time is around 4/5 weeks before being processed. Am i missing something? Old deeds can help paint a picture as to how land/property has been conveyed previously so can be important but once registered the title plan is the key re owned extent and position of general boundaries. Comment by AdamH They are correct to say that registration of the land may not help directly as once registered, our title plans show general boundaries only, meaning that the exact position of the legal boundary line is left undefined. kashley James - we do not destroy the original title deeds. Comment by I searched online and she left no will. 29 April 2020. posted on POA can give you powers to act but it does not make you the legal owner. If you decide to apply now you can do this by letter and this should supported by a letter from the parish council / local authority authorising the change together with any other available evidence. Were trying to determine the remaining length of the leasehold on a property and if a share of the freehold is included. Comment by AdamH The title deed we have from the conveyancing process has the people we bought off (who lived her 25 years) plus 3 changes of hands in 6 months when the house was first built, so there's nearly 70 years missing. Bubbles1980 Comment by Comment by Catawba County (N.C.). Register of Deeds - WorldCat So an example would be Conveyance to great grandfather, probate for him naming your great grandmother as his executor, probate for her naming your Mother as executor and finally probate for her naming you as executor. In reality the drive was built 4 meters longer than the transfer suggests and the kerb 4 meters further back. Hi. Thanks again. We have a backlog of certain types of work so it could be several more weeks before it is registered. ianflowers I presume the solicitors have been holding the deeds for safekeeping and you have not mortgaged the property during your ownership. Concerned seller 04 June 2019, John - the register and title plan are available online. Comment by it was sold once to the big estate in 1967 by his descendants and we purchased it from them. John - if a buyer's mortgage lender won't secure against that risk then yes but not all buyers/lenders will take that view in my experience. Very much something to get assurances from the solicitor on and I am sure that they/the firm should be able to reassure you as a result. Our solicitors are now having problems contacting the vendors and HM Land Registry say we cannot have the title transferred into our name until they sign the relevant paperwork to be sent to HM Land Registry. Thanks for reading. Steven - you need to rely on your legal advice here as this is a matter only they and the buyers can resolve. Kim Parsons (I can message you the post code privately). AdamH And with leasehold tenures responsibility for holding a copy of the lease and/or an6 variation thereof lies with the landlord and tenant. Elise Powers of attorney and registered land . Thanks Adam. They are exact in every other way except for the stamps therefore the material, size, historic script are the same. The B Register Proprietor owns the title but rage was a loan secured with the bank, Comment by The Register of Deeds office is located in the Alexander County Services Center near Adams Funeral Home and the intersection of Highway 16 South and West Main Avenue. Jo M Her property was co-owned with one of her son (my uncle) who we don't get on with. Chris Lisa Hi Ian, the application went in around the 24th September (35 working days, last week). posted on posted on 06 September 2019. posted on Thanks for an interesting and informative post. On a mortgaged property pre 2000 the lender would often hold the original deeds/documents and Charge Certificate as security - the owner would need the Charge Certificate (not the original deeds/documents) to prove ownership and hand over to any new buyer I don't have a cheque book and I can't understand how I can pay by direct debit. However I say needs to reservedly as in my experience too much digging/research may risk the indemnity policy being withdrawn but your solicitor will know far more than I in that regard. Comment by So, what are title deeds, where are they kept, and do you need them? Norma L, Comment by Comment by As we are not trained on how to work through the various options we need to read and comprehend, and it's not always easy. Hugh Buckeridge 04 February 2021. So our mortgage provider destroyed them without informing us. 17 July 2020, Good evening, I was hesitant to provide this information as I thought it was a confidential document but they advised they would remove my property from the market if I did not provide this. How do I find the document showing the land was purchased by the former owner of my house? Comment by DISCLAIMER: By North Carolina law, this office cannot prepare or assist with the preparation of legal documents. Kieron Connolly Comment by I am disgusted that nobody seems to know where they are! 25 April 2019, Hi I have purchased the title register and it says at the bottom, note original filed, does that mean the original deeds were filed with yourselves x, Comment by Comment by And if it was registered when they bought as well then its even less likely. Any original statutory declarations, statements of truth, subsisting leases, subsisting charges, certificates relating to Stamp Duty Land Tax or Land Transaction Tax and the latest document of title (such as the transfer to the applicant) will be retained, scanned and then destroyed. 15 March 2018. It maybe that the form didnt give us enough details to issue, Hi Adam, WSX201958 I have the original deeds at home as I'm now mortgage free. Please help. Comment by 1 Apply. I am really disappointed as I want to assure the new owner what rights they have about the alleyway. Can't recall which now, but I think it was the record office who were pleased to take it into their collection. Now, in 2020 we have decided to get that security cleared off and the bank has confirmed that it has taken off the charge on the land registry. posted on Or if official copies are required, you'd need to apply by post on form OC1 and this attracts a fee of 7 each. Brian - understood and I hope that you both remain healthy and are able to locate the original deeds. posted on Whether they ever held the original deeds/documents will very much depend on when the property was first registered and when you bought it. The 30 reads as if you may have used another website/service to request copies. Recently my mother is trying to put her finances etc in order and checked with the bank in respect of the title deeds as they had been transferred to another one of their banks when a few were being closed down. Comment by Copyright 2020. we have paid our mortgage off and were chuffed until we requested our deeds from the building society. I am guessing I will need to obtain a copy of the title deeds so that her house can be sold and pass to new owners? Both properties are registered at LR but the titles do not mention anything about right of way. AdamH ianflowers Our solicitor is a bit frustrated as he's not getting straightforward answers from sellers and therefore doesn't understand why we're still interested in this property. 23 January 2020, I contacted Santander in regard to my deeds as they had not been sent to me following the completion of my mortgage in Dec 2019. Comment by posted on posted on You need to rely on your conveyancer her re the risks involved. 21 January 2020. Jill - both as we register the general boundaries and the lease may offer more details as a result. So wills/probate confirm the deaths and inheritance but you also now need to transfer the legal ownership. posted on I am trying to get a hold of the title deeds - if indeed I need them, for a property that I have recently finished my last mortgage payment with. Hope someone can help me. I don't know the addresses of most of the properties but three I do. Do you know your title number? I did think of offering it to the current residents of the cottage but it seemed better to be in safekeeping for others to see. Comment by Martin - can you give me your title number please and I'll do my best to shed some light on the issue re the original deeds/documents. 27 April 2018. posted on Please can you suggest the documents (example, office copy entries of Title and conveyance of both properties etc.) posted on Julia E Does the land Registry Which of these shows the legal boundary? appreciate the advice, Comment by Many lenders converted their records to electronic format in recent times and their approach in dealing with original paper title deeds varied. My advice would be to get legal advice and then consider using a tracing agency as appropriate, Comment by And who have you contacted and how? So the act requires them to do something, which they did in the Conveyance so there is no ambiguity. They will have a specific department for doing this so its they who decide and then notify a Royal Mail. Catawba County. Comment by posted on Comment by Any help would be greatly appreciated. posted on Thanks Adam. I'd also like to say how informative and helpful all of the replies on here are. I contacted my conveyancer who said "the land registry have raised a requisition on the application" what does this mean and how long does it take to rectify this issue. I think it is disgusting that we were not advised by either department what was the procedure and I still want our deeds returned !!!!! AdamH If there is such a deed or deeds then these are only available by post. Comment by It's a difficult situation, but ultimately if the sellers are not willing to investigate this further then it will be for parties involved to decide whether / how to proceed. I may have asked you this previously! posted on Comment by Perform a free Catawba County, NC public record search, including arrest, birth, business, contractor, court, criminal, death, divorce, employee, genealogy, GIS, inmate, jail, land, marriage, police, property, sex offender, tax, vital, and warrant records searches. The fee is 7 per document/deed. If your purchase is now confirmed I would suggest that they make a further request and provide evidence to confirm the purchase is to take place, Comment by As far as original documents are concerned these were never retained by us in the way implied. Your blog was the far mor helpful, Sorry I didn't mean it was a google plan. Sue - I'm afraid we cannot advise or assist you as the issues being raised/faced are part of the conveyancing process and discussions between each party and their conveyancers. posted on Comment by So the real Q is we know we dont own it based on the TP1 but theyve registered it to us. Our estate agents is saying this is pretty common in older houses and the deeds have been lost? The register as you refer to might also reference a document(s) / deed(s) as 'filed'. However if there is no urgency such as an onward sale then please bear with us and wait to hear from your conveyancer again. Many thanks, Comment by ( I think in the short form doc I got from the land registry previously for 3 does refer to properties being 'filed'). I am trying to find out the status of my deeds of variation. Its for you to listen and meet the publics expectations as obviously not happening in many blogs! 04 January 2019. 20 November 2020. Excellent! liz We keep hitting a dead end. 11 April 2018. But we have no idea where to start looking for such documentation. Nothing is stating Counterpart. I suspect the solicitor is referring generically to such matters so IF your property is not registered advising that you consider getting it registered. 24 January 2019. I was horrified to be told by a flippant member of staff that Land Registry did not have them. 2 Pay. As the article explains we don't retain the original deeds/documents. ianflowers Jason My neighbour, aged 88, has for many years owned some land jointly with his elder brother, which the brothers inherited from their father or grandfather. AdamH 21 October 2020. I also looked at the legislation schedule 6 on legislation.gov.uk and says that rights of way over land not comprised in the dwelling-house to be conveyed or granted so far as the landlord is capable of granting them (the rights that were in use at the relevant time). 27 July 2020, Vanessa - the only details we may have would be a list of documents submitted when the property was first registered plus a record of each change of ownership thereafter. warranty deed, quit claim deed, etc.) Our house is also coming up as leasehold even though many of our neighbours are freehold. The guidance has been written for legal professionals who normally lodge this type of application on their client's behalf and it may therefore contain some unfamiliar terms. Harsha We have all the original land deeds plus the planning permission granted and building completion certificate. Hi Adam - Sadly it is a mistake during the either the registration or conveyancing and as we have the evidence of ownership from 1935 and can physically take the conveyance either to the nearest office (North West London) for them to examine the evidence and amend the records as we guess it can't be done online (or can it?) 13 March 2018. Our role is to register the interest and we do not normally have any involvement in the financial side of things. Carol I also agree that if you have your paper deeds, you should keep them to be able to check any additional information. Finally, as mentioned in the blog, although the paper titles deeds you hold are not needed to prove ownership, it is a good idea to hold on to them. The post code is BR2 0LW. Ruth Speirs She was indicted by a Catawba County grand jury . posted on Sonja Gaffer She is now in the process of selling and her Solicitor has asked for the deeds to be sent to them. I'm looking at extending the lease on my property, how do I get a copy of the deeds to my house? My Uncle paid council tax, was on the local council, was well known etc and we have sent all the documentation. moved the kerb amongst other things). posted on I research the fee and hope that it is something like "Official Documents" for 7. 15 March 2019, If I live with my parents and both parents die, do I need to register the house in my name to continue living there, or can I leave the deeds in their name, continue living there and also avoid paying Inheritance tax, Comment by The register is not lessened in value by a lack of signatures. Hi, Issue no.2 which i'm struggling to understand. What a brilliant blog! Adrian Brenda Guidance. Section B does not show any restriction relating to a charge in favour of I'm also in this situation on a probate. AdamH Brenda His elder brother died recently and his estate is going through probate. 25 February 2018. Comment by New built warranties. If your solicitor referred you then they will I imagine have suggested using form OC1 and applying for a copy of the register is there any way of upgrading property title without freehold deeds? He is asking to be released form this, but supplying no details. Brings me to my concern I have contacted Land registry the bank Nationwide and the solicitor who was Nationwide's recommendation who is no longer trading but merged with a larger company and all have said they don't have the deeds. Same wording in title deeds as mine but has access rights for the rear of the property in practice. This address tends not to be updated unless we receive an application to do so. The requirement to see the original documents where no legal professional is acting is mainly to safeguard against fraud. Martyn - many thanks. posted on Where do we go from here? posted on Ashley B Comment by There are benefits to registration but an application of this nature would be voluntary and so we cannot advise or direct you on how to proceed. Our online guidance takes you through it so start with the register and go from there posted on 11 June 2018. 09 July 2019. The 2023 hurricane predictions from Colorodo State University and The Weather Company are that there will be 13-15 named storms, 6-7 hurricanes and 2-3 . (a) such provisions (if any) as the tenant may require for the purpose of securing to him rights of way over land not comprised in the dwelling-house, so far as the landlord is capable of granting them, being rights of way that are necessary for the reasonable enjoyment of the dwelling-house; and, (b) such provisions (if any) as the landlord may require for the purpose of making the dwelling-house subject to rights of way necessary for the reasonable enjoyment of other property, being property in which at the relevant time the landlord has an interest, or to rights of way granted or agreed to be granted before the relevant time by the landlord . Fairer Does this sound like the land is registered and they just can't find it or nothing to do with the Land Registry? 03 December 2018, Anne - the register and copy of the 2007 Transfer should be sufficient for you to establish who the right people are to contact Hi The after effect of that is whether the parties or others lost out as a result of the registration mistake. As mentioned in the blog, the original deeds are normally returned to the solicitors acting when the property is first registered with us. Does the bank really NEED to see these documents? 04 June 2018, Adam - if online then immediate and if by post then a few days. Comment by Can anyone help? posted on Also the mapping has limitations as to accuracy and generalisation, and presume a certain level of map reading skill e.g the significance of a solid line and a pecked line. I own several properties and I have the bundles for all of the others. AdamH You should be able to check this online and get a copy of the title record for 3 - https://www.gov.uk/get-information-about-property-and-land/search-the-register . They are a valuable tool for the real estate industry, offering . Comment by I'll pick that up and email you again with a bit more specific insight into what, in my experience, may have happened re. Section C only shows 1987Notice of deposit of Land Certificate But this does not affect first registration applications as I have mentioned. If there is a filed deed you can apply by post for a copy (form OC2) Where do I get the official version that shows my absolute title, or do I send the original back to you to update? That all depends on the facts presented and what checks we then make. As on original deed only my husband name on it. I suggest you use our contact form to submit the specific details. Ty in advance x, Comment by And do I need to fill in form ID1 as well? john, Comment by posted on As the article states the original deeds/documents submitted when a property is first registered are returned to the applicant at that time. We split about 15 years ago and I took on the mortgage, bought him out and carried on living here with our son. LeslieM We have something but always though this covanent was for our property not his as the land map is not clear. Heather - if it was registered then the deeds were not needed by us. 2. If the Company that was or any of the Solicitors involved or if indeed the Land Registry somehow didn't register the form 53 back in the day to release the charge, is the only option available that is left, is to get The Crown to vacate the Charge? Comment by Data Source: U.S. Census Bureau; American Community Survey, 2018 ACS 5-Year Estimates. That does make sense although I dont remember ever being asked to check this and unfortunately it isnt something I ever would have thought to check myself. posted on We simply want our deeds! The Councils title does refer to older deeds but these relate to the much larger estate of properties owned by them. Comment by She sent a copy of the land registry and I could see where this was. This is a blog so you really need our support team to check an respond I may not need the *entire* title deeds but just a copy of the lease, in order to extend same. Used to combine areas together for survey purposes. We found out after the land searches have been done that half of the property is still in the previous owners name. posted on AdamH Bill 12 March 2018, Rachael - I would suggest writing to the 'Owner' at the address to see if they would like them for example, Comment by I may be able to offer some advice based on the register timelines and experience around such things. posted on 16 January 2019. See https://hmlandregistry.blog.gov.uk/2018/02/27/drawing-the-line-on-boundaries/#comments, Comment by But as I say your solicitor will have more experience of this as we see the end result rather than what takes place to achieve that result.
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