So, whats wrong with just sitting back and enjoying an action-packed, roller-coaster ride with Noah? THEREFORE ACCEPT EVERY SINGLE WORD AS TRUTH !! Original music by Dan Powell and Marion Lozano . What gyrations? This Apamean coin shows Noah and his wife in the ark, which is depicted as a box with an open lid floating on water, with the name Noah written in Greek. Enochs father was Jared, whose name means go down and it was believed that it was during his generation when the watchers descended. Above the lid is depicted a dove, bearing an olive branch, and a raven (Genesis 8:612). Elohim: =sent, = the, and = strong right hand: means: magistrates, angles, army, or Host =Owthtzv= : = . 20. Enoch had a pre-flood ministry, he was the scribe of scrolls he passed onto to Noah. And the canopy of water that surrounded the earth was used (Gen 1:6-10). Well, to tell the truth, it just doesnt hold up very well at all. being studiously accurate is not condescending & most especially not venomous. What does making such a statement say about yourself & your attitude not only towards others but about the Bible itself? Calculations suggest that the first stars to form, out of hydrogen and helium produced in the Big Bang, would be 100 times as massive as the Sun and would rapidly explode, scattering heavier elements like oxygen, carbon, nitrogen and iron the stuff of planets and life into space to serve as material for a new generation of stars. p. 43 Sure the sons of (powers) God did, but you are having a problem discerning the Hebrew & Aramaic definition for elohiym (#430 & 410 Strongs Concordance) derived from two other words 193 & 352 which translated into English means powers, strength, magistrates, judges. As for the spirits of heaven, in heaven shall be their dwelling, but as for the spirits of the earth which were born upon the earth, on the earth shall be their dwelling.] Will Graham Devotion: Think Your Sin Isnt So Bad? And they all answered God sent a wind, then for 150 days the water steadily went down. Sadly, regardless of theology or how it plays with source materials, either Biblical or extra-Biblical, turns out that its just a bad movie. That ur-god would evolves into the many. Genesis 6:4 says that these former angels had relations with the daughters of men and produced freakish, hybrid, offspring called Nephilim. Wherefore have ye left the high, holy, and eternal heaven, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants (as your) sons? Shortly after 13,00 B.C. Do yourself a favour. The father of the Canaanite gods was also refered to as El Elyon (God Most High) and so the original interpretation of Deuteronomy 32:8 likely read: Lost Roman Army Camps Discovered in Jordan, Lavish New Kingdom Tomb Uncovered at Saqqara, https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Genesis-Chapter-6/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGL0sfKNR5w&list=PLV7Wy_Z8JeGiJfWIQkXTyDVTaCdfnxAqx, http://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/news/pharaohs-mummy-reveals-murder-palace-intrigue/, http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130901/did-languages-come-from-the-tower-of-babel/, https://www.facebook.com/pages/Miriamne-the-Magdala-First-in-the-Series-of-the-Yeshua-Miri-Novels/206903979347028, http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/Gobekli_Tepe_interview.htm. I once read where Jerome wrote to a female parishoner that he wanted to see repentant tears in her hollow cheek, which to me is a red flag that these fallen angels or watchers were perhaps religious figures who conspired to make women subserviant. And no request that they (i.e. .then you move right on forward & disagree with these scriptures. Mesopotamian creation myths, Josephs relationship with Egyptian temple practices and 3 tales of Ur, the birthplace of Abraham. Rain began and lasted 40 days and 40 nights. It took 40 days and 40 nights to complete it. think not that the bible was changed and libraries burnt down? In Food of the Gods, (p.74) Terrence McKenna raises the possibility that Eden was in the African Sahara as evidenced by the rock art at the Tassili Plateau in southern Algeria: Rising 50 feet above the surrounding plai, it certainly qualifies as a high place, which the Hebrew Bible so often associates with religious rituals and early encounters with God (Religion at the Dawn of Civilization by Ben Witherington III, BAR, Jan./Feb 2013, p.58). ( Genesis 6:11-20) We can believe that the Flood really happened because it is recorded in Scripture, which "is inspired of God." 2 Timothy 3:16. Check out the story in Genesis. This apocryphal book reimagines the account of Genesis 56, adding details to the flood narrative and elaborating on what was revealed to Enoch in heaven. Noah, being commanded, goes forth from the ark. No upper or lower case highlighting, no sentence or paragraphing structure indicating beginnings & endings of distinct topics in those early languages, it was context that fixed the start/finish points. Page 729. In ancient Israel, they used clay replicas of goddesses as an inexpensive way to connect to their beliefs. when the account in Genesis was thought to have been composed. p. 39 FOOLISH PEOPLE!!!! [10. So I agree with Jesus statement in Mark 12:25 and Matt. I simply choose to pick the Genesis accounts recorded in Bible as the clarification of pre-flood events & not the other way around. And he did not refrain from punishing an ancient world, but kept Noah, a preacher of righteousness, safe with seven others when he brought a flood upon the world of ungodly people.. It is falsely ascribed to Enoch. I have been studying the Bible from these manuscripts for a couple of decades now, I appreciate their value. Grab your bible. This is a quote from your article: The gyrations you two use to get around what the text says is laughable.. Produced probably sometime during the second and first centuries B.C.E. But you were formerly spiritual, living the eternal life, and immortal for all generations of the world. 300 is the height of the giants in 1 Enoch 7:2 and 300 cubits is the length of Noahs ark (Genesis 6:15). The two become friends and embarked on an expedition for timber (which, according to Gene B.s comment #24 made Gigamesh a nephilim, or feller) and they kill the guardian of the cedar forest which brings a decree from the gods that Enkidu must die. The Blasphemous movie was Satans way of twisting the truth of scripture and making the ignorant feel some sort of sympathy toward the Demons. Author of Miriamne the Magdala-The First Chapter in the Yeshua and Miri Novel Series and Content Creator for The Miriamne Page, For more information on this novel series, and The Miriamne Page, just click on this link: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Miriamne-the-Magdala-First-in-the-Series-of-the-Yeshua-Miri-Novels/206903979347028, the Watchers were not fallen until they made a conscious consensus decision to enter into the human evolutionary journey, as a delegation of Angels assigned to Earth as Watchers, they forsook their First Estate, and entered permanently into the stream of the human story, (genomic); by relinquishing their immortality, and status in Heaven (which they discovered was a consequence of their concensus disobedient action, so then they petitioned Enoch for intervention, mediation with God) the Watchers decision, was lead by Azazel, who was a doubter of Gods sovereingty over the Earths evolution, and who became attracted to the desired human experience the will (of disobedience), towards satiating a physical desire for this activity created the distortion of the outcomeas apposed to an immaculate desire that also produced its own results; (also genomic); much later in the human story. CHAPTER VII. Nobody could open it. The water was so deep it covered the tops of the mountains by more than 20 feet. Interestingly, the Jews did have an anecdote; Genesis chapter 11, that was reflected in the writings of Second Isaiah. Christ is crystal clear angels never have sex with humans under any circumstances. I saw the movie, and then came home and reread the biblical account. Im not sure where this leads, but one thing I dont believe is that the union was not with fallen angels, but perhaps instead with Gods elite beloved angels. Evil spirits have proceeded from their bodies; because they are born from men, and from the holy Watchers is their beginning and primal origin; they shall be evil spirits on earth, and evil spirits shall they be called. When the floodwater receded, Noah and his family exited the ark. Shall yield up all their virtue, all their fame ignobly, The flood was not a natural catastrophe but a moral tsunami. This movie was little more than the cinematic equivalent of a bad midrash directed by a very foolish man. Shalom. One author claims: The Tower of Babel myth is definitely one of the most absurd stories ever told. Even a Jewish rabbi called it a naive attempt to explain the origin of nations. So it wouldnt be necessarily out of context if I were to frame the term it came to pass as refering to a generation like those who were raised during the Great Depression when they couldnt have anything but produced the iconic image of Rosie the Rivetter and would signify that the daughters of man were good. Contrast that generation with that of Naamah (Genesis 4:22), which means beautiful, at a time when you can have anything, of which Marylin Monroe is iconic. I would have to agree with commentator Howard # 11, that the book of Enoch was an authoritative source for early Christians. Kislev 27 (early winter): Forty days of rain end; beginning of 150 days of water's swelling and churning.. Sivan 1 (early summer): Water calms and begins to subside at the rate of one cubit . Noah built the ark because He believed that God really would bring the Flood and We know that the wind and the rain came for 40 days and nights, but it is likely that Noah and his family, along with all of the animals preserved on board, were on the ark for up to a year in length. Easter is celebrated after 40 days. Sign up to receive our email newsletter and never miss an update. He knew nothing about sailing the high seas, and he certainly was at a loss as to how to build a boat. I have to agree with Kurt. But the point you bring up has to do with whether angels can co-habit with the daughters of men. And they said to the Lord of the ages: Lord of lords, God of gods, King of kings, and God of the ages, the throne of Thy glory (standeth) unto all the generations of the ages, and Thy name holy and glorious and blessed unto all the ages! It made the story very interesting; giving the viewer something to think about. ),fits the description of they were heroes of old, the men of renown (Genesis 6:5). Give me that scripture. Where do you stand? Hollywood wont get the bible account correct, but it is still ok to add the rock monsters for the audience to get involved in the movie. In the movie they show a glimpse of the oyster bar where thats all you eat, giving it that turn of the century nostalgia. Believed to be the first temple yet discovered, the site was probably in use as a cult center before the temples construction: ONLY reliable source. VI-XI. God told Noah to "build an ark." Noah was perhaps the most unlikely seaman. God chose Noah as a messenger, instructing him to build the Ark as a sign to the people that the flood would come unless they changed their actions. Because you & the Noah movie are contorting Gen 6:2 sons into angels based on an English capital g for God for the Hebrew word elohyim for you have no standing based on the words of Christ in Mark 12:25 & Matt 22:30, in so doing you are challenging the words of Christ himself, you are suggesting you know something Christ just plain forgot about & that he needs you & the Noah movie to get him straightened out on. 2. In its expansion of the flood account we are introduced to the Watchers, fallen angels who mated with human women and produced offspringthe Nephilim, the heroes that were of old, warriors of renown of Genesis 6:4or giants. You are following mainstream answers. When the floodwater receded, Noah and his family exited the ark. As for the church father Jerome, to whom we credit for translating the biblical canon into Latin, perhaps he and other church fathers had a vested interest in excluding this book. Noah built the ark, filled it with pairs of every kind of animal, and prepared for the flood.. Produced by Mooj Zadie , Luke Vander Ploeg and Clare Toeniskoetter. In those 40 days, Noah was obedient to God's will and trusted that God would keep his word. Egyptian hieroglyphs are a great example of figurative picture language or iconography. Oh well. These materialized angels were able to eat like any human(Gen.18,8) and no doubt had the ability to cohabitbut of course this would be a perversion of Gods purpose for them on earth. Our design of the Ark was found to carefully balance the conflicting demands of stability, comfort, and strength, including a study of ancient ship-building It was designed as a wooden vessel but constructed as a building for millions of people to experience. And on the day of the great judgement he shall be cast into the fire. [paragraph continues] Gilgamesh was said to have waged military campaigns and the extended tours of duty caused an outcry among the people of Uruk and this is the setting in which Enkidu arrives from the wilderness; He, Enkidu, and his beasts had intruded on the stalkers place (tablet 1 column 2). This article first appeared in Bible History Daily on July 21, 2021. Angels in heaven are spirit creatures, who in their heavenly form cannot perform acts of marriage. Get to an online edition of Strongs Concordance & verify these things for yourself. IF YOU ARENT SHOCKED YOU HAVENT UNSEALED IT. And the earth shall be cleansed from all defilement, and from all sin, and from all punishment, and from all torment, and I will never again send (them) upon it from generation to generation and for ever. And by then it was too late. The sons of God (Heb: powers) engaging in betrothed sex producing offspring cant possibly be beings from heaven because we clearly have the words of the one who is the author of the Bible: Yeshua, Iesous Jesus, or whatever other spelling of his name be your choosing. God tells Noah to build the ark. 1. Paul D., its possible that the book of Enoch that you call phony may have relied on sources that date back to the 10th century B.C.E.. However, the original translation from the Septuagint and Qumran scroll 4QDeut reads that the nations were divided according to the number of the sons of Elohim. There were 70 sons of Israel that settled in Egypt (Exodus 1:5) and 70 is also the number of the Canaanite pantheon, the sons of El. PaulI believe you mistakenly quoted what Howard said(22) not my info(21). Many of these things were not meant to be taken at full literal face value. So if Jesus quotes it I dont care what Jerome says. And now, the giants, who are produced from the spirits and flesh, shall be called evil spirits upon the earth, and on the earth shall be their dwelling. Your email address will not be published. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all generations. Floodwater destroyed the wicked and all creatures that lived on the land except those in the ark. 1988, Yes Paul D., theres a vast reservoir of tradition on the subject from which a couple of references were streamlined in the book of Jude verse 6 and verses 14-15. Hence, 2/10/600 means the tenth day of the second month in Noah's 600th year. And now, behold, the souls of those who have died are crying and making their suit to the gates of heaven, and their lamentations have ascended: and cannot cease because of the lawless deeds which are wrought on the earth. He knew nothing about sailing the high seas, and he certainly was at a loss as to how to build a boat. Noah built the ark because He believed that God really would bring the Flood and We know that the wind and the rain came for 40 days and nights, but it is likely that Noah and his family, along with all of the animals preserved on board, were on the ark for up to a year in length. So, Noah built the boat and loaded the animals that God brought to him. I think that Enoch writings are key to understand what happened in the past, in that way we will be able to understand whats coming in the future because Jesus said that the last times will be like in the days of Noah, and according to Enoch and the book of Genesis, giants, nephilim, rephaim & fallen angels were on earth in those days. Hence the emphasis on humans being made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26, 5:1) after their experiance in exile among a populace who were mental slaves under the state-approved religion. Genesis is simple It is not a simplification of the older but the ur-story before. Youre either Church of Christ or from a denom that has a heavy Calvinist influence. The phrase tinged with renders tifsei, based on tufsa, frame, mold, mold, form, configuration,, pattern' (The Zohar, p.192). Anne Graham Lotz: What Impossible Situation Are You Facing? It seems likely, therefore, that early Jewish and Christians artists, working in the early first millennium C.E., were influenced by overly literal interpretations of the translated Hebrew Bible, which suggested to them that Noahs ark and the Ark of the Covenant were similar in appearance. No sooner was this done than the rain began, and the springs erupted. There is no example you can show me from scripture that angels can of their own volition become humanoid & magically generate male appendages capable of manufacturing sperm, yet this is the fiction you & the movie promote. God told Noah that he, his wife, and his three sons and their wives ( Genesis 6:14-18) 3 would go aboard the Ark at this same time. Gene R, then how in the world did that writer Know (?) It is falsely ascribed to Enoch. God then gave Noah orders to build an enormous Ark that was some 1,400,000 cubic feet, shaped like a modern-day battleship, and big enough to house some 522 modern-day railroad boxcars. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one anothers flesh, and drink the blood. WHY 40? Combine a one-year tablet and print subscription to BAR with membership in the BAS Library to start your journey into the ancient past today! God's plan is always best. Do you remember the forms that progeny all earthly life takes? The waters flooded the earth for 150 days, including the 40 days of rain (Genesis 7:12, 17, 24; 8:1). Movies suck nowadays. 3. 6. Just as Christ did not give humans the capability of changing the composition of their DNA, then for what logical reason would he give angels the capacity to exchange the composition of their spirit body for that of human DNA? As Noah passed his updated account through the righteous lineage that began with Enoch, Shems lineage now becomes the unbroken lineage entrusted with Holy Writ, this culminating with the founding of the nation of Israel as Moses led those peoples out of Egypt. p. 37 In Noah's day grace came in the shape of an Ark. To these that sober race of men, Im not going to do all the work here, learn to use a concordance, its a healthy exercise for a healthy spiritual life. Why should anyone who is a student of the original languages of the Bible care anything about what the paraphrase states? Nice introduction to a topic which can be quite confusing a lot of different rabbit holes and a lot of strange interpretations that seem to stray farther and farther from the simple reading of the text and straightforward analysis of historical texts that reference the event described in Genesis 6. NO !!! When we trust in God, we have the opportunity to see the fruits of our labor. The fact that Christ did not author the Hebrew/Aramaic word for angel in Gen 6:2, but instead authored the word sons, is very simply explained by Mark 12:25 and Matt. Noahs life was hard nothing happy about building an ark middle of nowhere. 19. The story in Genesis is repeated, with variations, in the Quran, where the Ark appears as Safinat N (Arabic: "Noah's ship") and al-fulk (Arabic . In his own words it is the most unbiblical biblical film ever made. All-access and digital members: Read more about depictions of Noahs ark in ancient biblical art in The Curious Case of NoahsBox? in the Summer 2021 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review. CHAPTER VI. I attempted to watch it this past weekend and had to turn it off after an hour an a half. The waters flooded the earth for 150 days, including the 40 days of rain (Genesis 7:12, 17, 24; 8:1). Some scoff at the Bibles account of how human languages began and spread. Book of enoch Hear, hear, Douglas #47! Weve seen the failed social experiments of the Taliban and other spin-off extremist movements that forbid women to work so that the leaders get to pick which ones to marry after denying them education and perpetuating a cycle of poverty. though ye were holy, spiritual, living the eternal life, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have begotten (children) with the blood of flesh, and, as the childrenof men, have lusted after flesh and blood as those also do who die and perish. Build an ark of gopherwood, with rooms inside, three decks, and a door. The Bible states that Noah was obedient to God and worked diligently to build the ark. Or something other than a man to be looked up to and admired? Therefore have I given them wives also that they might impregnate them, and beget children by them, that thus nothing might be wanting to them on earth. If all the translations in existence would simply revise their texts to comport with the oldest Codices concerning the diverse spellings associated with deity, a lot of confusion concerning proper usages of those terms would be set aside. REREAD MY LAST POST. But he believed God. Genesis 7:11: 40: 40 days and nights: 3rd month, 27th day of the month: Rain fell for 40 days, and then water covered the earth's highest places (at that time) by over ~20 feet (15 cubits) and began the stage of flooding until the next milestone.2: Genesis 7:11-12, Genesis 7:17-20: 150 As with any ancient tale, there are numerous theories as to why this cataclysmic event occurred. After all, the ark was a boat, right? The main character then falls in with a gang of crooks called short tails (named after there black jackets and matching hat and derby) which he eventually flees (Proverbs 1:10-19) and hides in the space above Grand Central Staitons main lobby that is a domed ceiling that represents the heavenly constellations and instead of focusing on safecracking he meditates on the workings of things that pertain to the structure that holds the cosmos together, which he learns from the daughter of the owner of a liberal newspaper, is light. Hollywood doesnt follow book of genesis or enoch. Stories in time grow more complex, the simple are earlier. 7 He sent out a raven. Perhaps this powerful priest was regarded as infallible since his stature was as tall as the temple itself. Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers (6) Noah opened the window. They are now on Satans side and contribute greatly to the wickedness on earth today. It had never rained upon the earth. Toll Free: 1-877-247-2426. Point 3 Teslave told people that he got his insights in to electricity from demons. All this inside the first six chapters of Genesis. THE PUBLIC ANSWERS ARE FOR EVERYONE, THE MASSES, THE PRIVATE ANSWERS ARE HIDDEN AS ITS SAYS IN BIBLE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS LIKE THE FIELD WHICH WHEN THE MAN FOUND THE TREASURE HE HID AGAIN AND BOUGHT THE FIELD. At other times the angel Gabriel materialized to Daniel and to Mary. My advice ENJOY! 1. And these spirits shall rise up against the children of men and against the women, because they have proceeded from them. So I agree with Jesus statement in Mark 12:25 and Matt. It would take four men as men are today to throw a stone as large as that. The length of the cubit varies through history, with the Roman cubit being nearly 4 feet long. Paul D. while I agree that there were written traditions that were passed down through the line of Shem to Abraham, the book of Genesis as we have it now wasnt composed until the period of the early monarchy and the 5th chapter of Genesis wasnt composed until after the return from Bablylonian captivity during 5th century B.C.E,. There is nothing in all the Bible that states angels can have sex with humans! Point 5 to Clone, is to creation of an animal in the womb of host with out sexual intercourse and is possible today.
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